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A lot of stuff, legislation that's passed to the governor's desk today.

There was a piece of legislation that passed the governor's desk, and it's culmination of a long, long effort to get this

piece of legislation on the books. And, you know, oftentimes it can be a long time before you

get legislation passed. I like this story because, hey, it hits something that I care about,

which is animals. And I also like it, though, because it's the power of one person to begin a process,

create momentum, and then actually get legislation passed over the objection of big money

and lobbying against it.

The legislation I'm talking about is the new legislation outlawing the maiming of cats,

the declawing they call it, where they denuckle cats or cut their tendons off.

And it's generally done, you know, to protect furniture, whatever the reason is.

They don't want, you know, in the house.

People don't want clawing, but it's an important part of a cat's life.

Anyway, this procedure has existed as a moneymaker for veterinarians, and there's big money behind it nationwide and in California.

So one person began this effort to try to get it outlawed, county by county, city by city, etc. And she joins us now, Dr. Jennifer Conrad, veterinarian. Congratulations to you. It's got to be a pretty big week. Thank you, Mark. Yeah. Yes, thank you, Mark. You've been there for the long haul with me on this.

So it's nice to get to talk to you about it actually becoming illegal in California to declaw cat.

I think the cruelty associated with it is substantial.

And that you know it as a veterinarian.

And you've always just been repulsed by it, the fact that it was something that was just done so routinely.

It is done routinely. It's still done routinely. It's 22% of American cats are declawed, and 72% of veterinarians will declaw cats.

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