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Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

Veterans Are Doing the Job the Government Won’t (with Scott Mann)

Change Agents with Andy Stumpf

IRONCLAD

Society & Culture

4.9648 Ratings

🗓️ 7 May 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

On today’s episode, Andy sits down with retired Green Beret and former Lieutenant Colonel Scott Mann, who served over 20 years in Army Special Forces conducting missions across Afghanistan, Iraq, and Latin America. After retiring, Scott founded The Hero’s Journey and became a leading advocate for veterans’ transition through storytelling. He and Andy discuss the origins of Operation Pineapple Express, a grassroots effort led by veterans to evacuate Afghan allies when official channels failed. They explore the lasting effects of trauma, the challenges of reintegration, and why veterans are often forced to lead long after their service ends. Change Agents is an IRONCLAD Original  Sponsors: Firecracker FarmUse code IRONCLAD to get 15% off your first order at https://firecracker.farm/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:23.3

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0:30.8

i said how many of you think you know localized complex attacks multi-notal um what's how many of you think that's likely in the next 18 months?

0:41.3

Every hand in the room went up in like a second.

0:44.3

How can I help? How can I be useful in ending needless suffering?

0:50.3

Do not be afraid of work that has no end.

0:58.9

We have to organize a social movement.

1:05.8

We have an opportunity to lead, by example, versus just talking, hot air.

1:11.7

I think the more people in this fight, the more we grow, eventually it could change.

1:13.7

The people are the ones that can make the change. Why did you choose to be a green beret over at Navy SEAL?

1:32.2

Let's get to the bottom of the issue.

1:35.2

I'm joking.

1:36.5

Did you come from military family?

1:38.3

I'm always fascinated for people who go the special operations route.

1:41.7

Sometimes it's a deep family legacy.

1:43.5

And other times, man, they're just,

1:45.3

they had never even heard of the military, no military service. And they heard something in, it clicked.

1:50.7

Yeah. Yeah. I think, for me, honestly, I don't think I don't even know if I would have. I mean,

1:58.1

I loved the idea of being in the military.

2:02.6

I came from a family of service. Like my father is a wildland firefighter for the Forest Service.

2:07.3

So we grew up in little logging towns, you know, all over the South.

2:11.0

My mom's a teacher.

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