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When Diplomacy Fails Podcast

Versailles #67: OTD 15th May 1919 - Greek Landing

When Diplomacy Fails Podcast

Zack Twamley

Phd, International Relations, Korean War, European History, 17th Century, 18th Century, Politics, 20th Century, Thirty Years' War, History, 19th Century, War, First World War

4.8773 Ratings

🗓️ 15 May 2019

⏱️ 35 minutes

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OTD 100 years ago, the switch was finally pulled, and Greek soldiers were landed in Anatolia for the first time in centuries. The cause was the city of Smyrna, that centerpiece of Greek culture and history which, Greek premier Venizelos claimed, was eager to welcome its compatriots. Yet, the act of the landing is as fascinating as the story which led up to this event. It was a story of Hellenic romanticism, background intrigue, a selective application of self-determination, a lot of Greek pressure oh, and did I mention, a whole lot of Greek pressure.


On the surface, this act seemed to be the peak of Venizelos' career. It was merely a stepping stone, potentially, for the realisation of a Greater Greek Empire which straddled the Hellespont. And yet, several problems lurked behind the curtain. Perhaps the most important elephant in the room were the Turks, who were not even considered a proper nationality by the allies. Certainly, in Venizelos' view, Turks were really just lapsed Greeks, or sometimes, they were irredeemable barbarians. Either way, Greek culture would nourish them back to civilisation, and it was only humane not to stand in their way. Yet, despite receiving the most punitive peace treaty of any vanquished power, the Turks would enjoy a resurgence, and against all odds, ignore the peace treaties handed down by the allies. They were by far the most thoroughly punished of the Central Powers, yet they were also the only member of that group to ignore the peace terms which the allies presented, and to live to tell the tale.


On the other side of this crisis, loomed a reckoning between two peoples, Greek and Turkish, who had been at loggerheads for millenia. It was impossible to imagine Greeks and Turks living side by side in harmony, to the extent that, in acting to land at Smyrna, Venizelos set off a chain of events which would result in an incredibly tragic scene - the ending of centuries of Greek culture in Smyrna, in exchange for a lasting peace. It was a journey - from triumph to despair - which took fewer than five years. The aftershocks of this act were still being felt nearly four years after the First World War had officially 'ended', and believe it or not, Venizelos had a key role to play in both of these seismic chapters of Greco-Turkish history. All of it, began with a landing...

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0:00.0

Hello there, history friends. My name is Zach Twomley, and you're about to listen to the latest episode of the Versailles Anniversary Project.

0:07.9

This is episode 67, so as you can see, we've been going for some time now.

0:13.2

We will be finished eventually the Versailles Anniversary Project, but until we are, I hope you're enjoying it.

0:19.5

And if you are, why not get in touch and let me know?

0:21.9

One of the best ways that you can support this podcast, I mean, let's be honest, there's a heck of a lot.

0:27.8

But a great way you can show your support and show that you're enjoying this show is by dropping us a review on the iTunes store.

0:34.6

By putting your review on the iTunes store, you make it publicly known that you're enjoying

0:39.0

this show and that you approve of what we're doing here at When Diplomacy Fails.

0:42.6

I know that these long-running, very intense, very complex series, wherein to understand what's

0:47.9

going on yet to basically start at the beginning, I know they're not for everyone, but I also

0:51.9

know that some of you guys really enjoy them.

0:53.9

And I also know that some people are just waiting for me to finish the whole thing before they

0:57.7

actually start. I'm probably one of those people, if I wasn't doing it myself, and if I wasn't

1:03.1

so clued into what's going on, then I probably would wait until the very end of this project

1:08.1

before actually listening to it myself. But as it happens, I'm stuck in a

1:11.6

situation where I have to do it anyway. And I'm also stuck in a situation where I pretty much

1:15.9

have no free time to think about anything other than Versailles. So with that in mind, I would

1:20.6

really appreciate it if you went over to iTunes and told people just how obsessed I am with the

1:26.3

Versailles Anniversary Project.

1:28.0

If you could do your best in your review, not to make this whole thing sound too scary or intimidating,

1:33.0

I'd really appreciate that too.

1:34.6

A pretty reasonable question someone might ask when they see that there's 66 episodes in the can

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