Hey, wonderfuls. Welcome to episode 373 of the podcast with my guest author,

Veronica Roth. Very honored to have had an opportunity to chat with Veronica, she is awesome. I was excited to learn that she

and I are both very similar in our Hermity ways. Speaking of Hermity, I hope

everybody is doing well in the current situation. Here we applaud onward as various things reopen and we all continue to evaluate what is happening. I am thinking of you all and I send you my

best. I had a wonderful time last week with Travis McElroy on the My Brother and Me YouTube page.

We did a live stream.

It's still available to watch if you would like to.

It was a ton of fun.

We talked about a bunch of stuff and I sang a very silly song that I wrote.

So check that out if you want to.

I will talk to you guys soon. Oh, you're going to be here.

Oh, you know. Oh, I think maybe it has to do like a I go three, three, you go two, I go one. Somehow that helps sink in a way I don't totally understand.

Three.

One. 3. 1. Blast off the rocket ship that is this podcast is out in the world.

Okay, so we were both in the middle of doing some light quarantine complaining,

just some light, upbeat, playful, quarantine. quarantine complaining.

but we were both saying like yeah there's a there's just a sort of a flux back and

forth of like you know what this is this is okay. We're going to get through this and then

Yet why did I snap at my dog for doing nothing wrong like somewhere deep inside there will be like a little, you know, there's

clearly some kind of like little monster still living in there who's very sad and upset about

everything so. Well if you think about yourself as having a finite capacity

for just tolerance of annoying or difficult things then you're using most of that

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