Bola Boss, you groupie-Onas, welcome to the Blind By podcast.

This week I'm chatting to two, incredibly interesting guests.

They are experts in venom.

Dr. Michel Dugan works in the Venom Lab in University of Galway.

He's a zoologist who specializes in the evolution and development of venom systems and I'm also

chatting to Dr. J.P Dunbar. Michelle and J.P. They work up in Galway in the Venom Lab, which is a world leading research

center into Venom, Venom that's produced by spiders, snakes, scorpions, jellyfish, snails.

They study this venom to understand what it does to the human body when you're bitten not just to develop antivenoms but to

understand what venom is and what it does so that it might lead to medical discoveries.

Also they're interested in invasive species in Ireland,

venomous creatures in Ireland,

such as the false widow spider, which has exploded in population in the past

10 years and looks like it's here to stay.

These two lads are doing the main body of research in Ireland around Falls Widow spiders.

We had an utterly fascinating chat in Galway of a bit of a sore throat because I've been gigging

too much of a horse throat, but we had a fascinating conversation and Godaway, where

I got to explore my curiosity around venom and snakes and scorpions and centipedes and all sorts. So here's my chat with Dr. Michel Duggan and Dr.

J.P Dunbar from the Venom Lab in Galway. So ye lads are like experts in venom.

You're experts in the venom of animals that do venom.

I didn't want to say insects there because many different animals have venom. The first thing I want to ask

is, and this pertains to the conversation we had backstage, we were speaking about, so all three of us on this stage had a shit time in school and all three of

us ended up finding passions that were really good at and sticking with it and kind of succeeding in those

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