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The DSR Network

Venezuela, NATO, Greenland, Trump Battleships & Tinker Bell: A Year End Round-Up

The DSR Network

Chris Cotnoir

Government

4.51.7K Ratings

🗓️ 23 December 2025

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

From U.S. military operations in Venezuela to the erosion of trust in NATO, the Trump administration’s foreign policy leaves us in a precarious gepolitical position going into 2026. What can we expect from the fallout of these choices heading into the new year? Former Lieutenant Generals David Lute and Mark Hertling join David Rothkopf and Rosa Brooks to take stock of U.S. foreign policy as we close out 2025. Looking for More from the DSR Network? Click Here: https://linktr.ee/deepstateradio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:47.1

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0:58.4

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1:04.7

Hello and welcome to DSR. I'm David Rothkoff, your host, and I am joined today by three of our best and most appreciated friends,

1:15.1

starting with Rosa Brooks of Georgetown University Law Center. How are you doing today, Rosa?

1:20.2

Excellent, David. It's the holiday season. Excellent. It is indeed the holiday season. We're also

1:26.7

joined by General Mark Hurtling, who at one point commanded U.S. Army in Europe. And I noticed online, Mark, you have a book coming out?

1:37.1

I do, David. Thank you for asking about that. Yeah, it's a book entitled If I Don't Return. And it's a journal from Desert Storm that's been expanded for the last 30 years of my life.

1:49.2

And by the way, Doug Lute, I haven't told him this, he is actually named inside the book for a little interesting foray we had right before we crossed the berm in 1991.

2:02.3

Wow.

2:04.1

That's interesting because usually Doug's name is redacted.

2:09.6

Well, I haven't gone through the Pentagon process.

2:12.5

Steady.

2:14.3

Steady, steady.

2:17.3

And as you can tell from that, we are also joined by our friend General Doug Lute.

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