Venezuela leader captured. Trump says U.S. to 'run' the country. Here’s what we know
Sources & Methods
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🗓️ 4 January 2026
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Summary
After months of threats, warnings and seizing of alleged drug boats – tensions between the United States and Venezuela have now come to this: the arrest of Venezuelan president Nicolás Maduro.
Now, President Trump says the United States is “running the country.”
In this special episode of Sources & Methods, host Mary Louise Kelly speaks with national security correspondent Greg Myre, Pentagon correspondent Tom Bowman, international correspondent Carrie Kahn and Rep. Adam Smith about the latest from Venezuela.
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| 0:00.0 | Support for NPR and the following message come from Yarl and Pamela Mohn, thanking the people who make public radio great every day and also those who listen. |
| 0:13.1 | This was a huge operation. An official said it was done with complete surprise. |
| 0:20.5 | It took American forces just over two hours, 150 |
| 0:24.6 | aircraft and the dismantling of Venezuela's air defenses to capture and arrest Venezuelan leader |
| 0:31.4 | Nicholas Maduro. How did this happen? And what happens next? This is sources and methods from NPR. |
| 0:40.7 | I'm Mary Louise Kelly. It is Saturday evening and we are dropping in with a special |
| 0:45.9 | Sources and Methods episode to bring you the latest on Venezuela. After months of threats, |
| 0:52.0 | months of warnings, seizing of alleged drug boats, targeting oil tankers, tensions between the United States and Venezuela have now come to this. |
| 1:01.5 | Overnight, President Trump ordered American forces to enter Venezuela and capture leader Nicholas Maduro and his wife, Celia Flores. |
| 1:10.7 | The two are now being extradited to New York, where they will face charges related to alleged drug trafficking and narco-terrorism conspiracies. |
| 1:20.1 | Meanwhile, President Trump this morning said this. |
| 1:23.1 | We're going to run the country until such time as we can do a safe, proper, and judicious transition. |
| 1:30.9 | So we don't want to be involved with having somebody else get in and we have the same |
| 1:37.7 | situation that we had for the last long period of years. |
| 1:41.6 | I'm still trying to wrap my head around that phrase. |
| 1:44.1 | We are going to run the country here to help me try to make sense of it. |
| 1:47.7 | Greg Myrie, who covers national security. |
| 1:50.0 | Hey, Greg. |
| 1:50.5 | Hi, Mary Louise. |
| 1:51.4 | And Pentagon correspondent Tom Bowman. |
| 1:53.2 | Hey, Tom. |
| 1:54.4 | Tom, you start with what we know. |
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