All right, Alexander, let's talk about the situation in Venezuela and the military buildup

in Venezuela.

And Trump, he spoke to 60 minutes yesterday.

I believe it's been five years since he's appeared on 60 minutes, actually.

But much of the discussion was on Venezuela.

And the impression that I got from Trump is that no one knows what's going to happen in

Venezuela.

And obviously, he's not saying what's going to happen in Venezuela.

I'm starting to wonder, does he know what's going to happen in Venezuela,

to be quite honest? But your thoughts on the military buildup, just real quick. The analysis is that

either an operation is going to happen, right? Or that this is some sort of pressure campaign to get Maduro to step down, right?

I mean, those are the two schools of thought when it comes to Venezuela.

Either all of this buildup is to scare Maduro or maybe people around him so that he goes to Russia or China or Iran, whatever

various senators are saying, just grab your stuff, Maduro, and leave. Or there's going to be

an operation. What are your thoughts? Well, I think you're absolutely right. And I suspect you're

probably right also about Trump's own calculations in the

sense that perhaps he hasn't yet made that final decision to go in. I think he realizes that

maybe this isn't if this isn't very popular with his electoral base. It might, there might be dissensions about this within the administration.

I don't know how, you know, secure Tulsi Gabbard's position is, for example, but she did make

statements the other day about how regime change is something that this administration does not do.

Well, everything about what is going on around Venezuela strongly suggests to me that regime change is the purpose here.

But perhaps that is her way of signaling to Trump that she doesn't agree with any military

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