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Venezuela flotilla like 1989 Panama? Richard Epstein, Civitas Institute, University of Texas

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🗓️ 23 August 2025

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Venezuela flotilla like 1989 Panama? Richard Epstein, Civitas Institute, University of Texas
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0:00.0

This is CBSI on the world.

0:05.2

I'm John Dr. Professor Richard Epstein.

0:07.5

He's here.

0:08.0

I'm going to take advantage of the breaking news, fog of war from the coast of Venezuela.

0:15.0

Professor, we're told the U.S. Navy has three major warships with cruise missiles and landing forces attending a marine

0:24.9

expeditionary unit up up to 4,000. And there are other craft that are part of this flotilla.

0:32.1

It's a war flotilla. It's off the coast of Venezuela. We're also told that the State Department

0:37.1

has increased the bounty on Nicholas Maduro, the president of Venezuela. We're also told that the State Department has increased the bounty on

0:38.8

Nicholas Maduro, the president of Venezuela, to $50 million. We're also told that it might be

0:47.0

that Nicholas Maduro is going to be the new Noriega, reminding everybody in 1989, George H.W. Bush then president,

0:56.2

vouchsafed the abduction of the president of Panama, the Panama Canal Zone, taken back to the

1:03.0

U.S. prosecuted in jail for being a drug lord, the same accusation that's alleged at Nicholas

1:10.0

Maduro as the head of a foreign terrorist organization.

1:13.6

Your understanding of the international law that every now and again people mumble about it, but I've

1:20.2

never been sure what it actually means. If the U.S. abducts in the way that it did in Panama in 1989, is this a matter for the courts

1:31.3

and what court? We have a couple of minutes. Okay, well, first of all, no American court has

1:36.2

ever decided to intervene in any exercise of president or congressional power in terms of

1:42.2

the international sphere. Their attitude is, we're too little,

1:45.7

we're too late, we can't get it right. It's going to be a battle between the president and the

1:49.8

Congress or factions inside the executive branches to what is done. There is an old constitutional

1:56.2

doctrine which says that the Congress declares war, and the president fights it.

2:06.7

The last time that was invoked in that form was about 1943, going after, I think it was Bulgaria in World War II. Everything else afterwards has been called the police action of one

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