Venezuela after Maduro with Senator Gallego and Frank Fukuyama
GZERO World with Ian Bremmer
GZERO Media
4.7 • 830 Ratings
🗓️ 10 January 2026
⏱️ 36 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the GZero World Podcast. |
| 0:05.5 | This is where you can find extended versions of my conversations on public television. |
| 0:09.9 | I'm Ian Bremmer, and it's been about a week since the Trump administration greenlit |
| 0:13.7 | a dramatic U.S. military operation that captured Venezuelan strongman Nicholas Maduro |
| 0:19.0 | and his wife in Caracas, bringing them back to New York City. |
| 0:23.0 | The rate itself was a striking demonstration of American power. |
| 0:26.7 | The intelligence coordination and execution involved made clear that this was in operation only the United States could have carried out. |
| 0:34.1 | There's also little international sympathy for a dictator whose rule |
| 0:37.6 | collapsed Venezuela into a failed state and produced a refugee crisis larger than Syria's after its |
| 0:43.8 | civil war. What comes next is far less certain. How does the United States run, as Trump says, |
| 0:50.5 | a country of 30 million people, even temporarily? Will acting president Delci Rodriguez, a longtime Maduro ally, actually follow Washington's lead? |
| 0:59.8 | And will Venezuela and its powerful military accept that arrangement? |
| 1:04.4 | The balance of power, of course, favors Washington. |
| 1:07.6 | Politically, this operation was a major win for Donald Trump, a president under pressure |
| 1:12.4 | at home who has now shown he can act decisively abroad without allies, without large-scale |
| 1:17.6 | strikes, and without losing a single American troop. Trump has framed this moment in terms |
| 1:23.2 | of raw power, openly embracing what he calls the Don Roe doctrine and signaling that American |
| 1:28.8 | dominance in its sphere of influence will not be questioned. |
| 1:32.6 | This is the law of the jungle, where the biggest stick sets the rules and others adjust accordingly. |
| 1:38.7 | And it's a message being heard well beyond Caracas from Latin America to Europe. |
| 1:44.1 | Joining me with the latest reactions from Capitol Hill is the Democratic Senator from Arizona, |
| 1:48.3 | Ruben Gallego. |
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