Recorded at Retention Science Studios.

This is not your average entrepreneur or e-commerce podcast.

And he's not your average host.

This is The Story of a Brand with your host, Ramon Vela.

We listen, you know, I mean that the packaging is beautiful, but we heard now multiple times,

hey, it's too much packaging.

Yes.

Okay, point taken.

Good argument.

We got really some good feedback from people.

And of course, you know, you have to listen.

There are so many smart people out there. Listen to the customer and learn. You know, this is like have this this politic in the company where if somebody criticize you, it's take it as an opportunity to be a better self, you know. I mean, obviously there are sometimes things where you disagree with, but just be open,

you know, to at least accept different opinions and be open mind and try to incorporate

everything in your company strategy, you know, what's possible.

And obviously have the better argument with these

people when they might be wrong, you know?

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