Hello, this is Victor Davis Hanson with the Victor Davis Hanson show. I'm solo again in one of our periodic interviews and Sammy Wink and Jack Fowler not with me, but I'm very lucky to have with me

Rebecca Weber, the CEO of the Association for mature American Citizens, and

you know it as AMAC and we're going to talk to her about how this wonderful

organization grew and its influence and her role in it and we'll be right back just in a minute.

And we're back with a Vichordid

with the Victor Davis Hanson Show and Rebecca Weber, CEO of American for Mature American

Citizens, Association for a mature American Citizens.

Rebecca, I know that we, I know that you're sort of the balance, the same balance with the ARP, but tell us a little

bit how this started with your father and how it grew and what's your

relationship with the competitor the AARP? Well first I want to say thank you so

much I am delighted to be with you. I enjoy all of your commentary, your book.

The end of everything is terrific. I love following you on Twitter.

You are one of my favorites and you've got so much wisdom so it is just an

absolute delight to be here with you today and the story about AMAC yeah the story

about AMAC is is really quite remarkable because it really points to the American dream, something

that's dying in America thanks to Joe Biden.

But this is a really beautiful story.

My father at age 64 years old decided that he was going to take all

of his retirement savings and put it towards an idea and that idea was to form an alternative conservative to AARP.

And if I could share a little bit about the background because it's a nice story.

Yeah, my father, we just celebrated Father's Day just a few days ago and my

father was an incredible man. He was an average everyday man. He did not have much

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