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The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

VBAC, Mood Swings & Skipping Our Babymoon

The Unplanned Podcast with Matt & Abby

Matt & Abby

Society & Culture

4.816.7K Ratings

🗓️ 10 June 2026

⏱️ 83 minutes

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clinicians offering support along the way. Visit Medexpress.co.ukuk slash podcast to get started today. Something was up with my epidural and I was going nonverbal. I locked in on this meditation. Yeah, left your body. I went to another decision. You might want to just get the epidural a little bit sooner than last time. No. You're going to push it. Maybe we just try to do this crunchy. This is the first time you're saying this to me. As of right now, the birth plan has to do a V-back. The concern that people listen to this right now is probably, what if your uterus ruptures? Because it is a risk. I just keep telling myself that we're going to spontaneously go into labor right around 38 weeks, and it's going to be beautiful and amazing. You've had a lot of sympathy symptoms now

0:54.7

how I think about it. You did point out to me that my ariolas are bigger. You pointed it out.

0:58.8

It was not me. I think he was body shaming is what it was. Nuh. What's up dudes? Welcome back to

1:06.3

another episode of unplanned. We have been doing so much travel before Abby can't travel anymore with

1:13.1

her getting further and further in this pregnancy. So we have a lot to catch up on. Got a game that we

1:17.9

want to play with you guys to follow along with. And we have some really exciting news we wanted to share

1:23.0

as well. So thanks for being here. Potentially. Yeah. Really exciting news news got like some big changes in the birth

1:30.1

plans we'll get to that in a second but babe we just got back from lake tahoe and how are you feeling

1:35.3

that i went to hawaii and before that we went to disneyland and i also went to new york in there at this

1:40.9

point i kind of want to just become like a travel youtube couple. No. Oh my gosh. I don't know how

1:44.6

those people do it. I love it. Guys, we've, we've like had people on our show before that do travel content and they don't even have a house. They literally just like fly all over the world and make videos and I think that sounds really fun. Yeah, I mean, I like a trip, but it feels really good to come home and to like eat a home cooked meal. That's where we're different. Go to the gym. I love to live on the edge, baby. I love, I love just being out in, especially nature. Isn't there something like beautiful? Like when we were in Tahoe, when you looked out at that lake, especially when we were on the gondola super high up. It's beautiful, yeah. It just takes my breath away. Just how beautiful our world is.

2:18.0

I just... like especially when we were on the gondola super high up it's beautiful yeah it just takes my breath away just how beautiful our world is i just really appreciate that that was cool yeah i don't think

2:24.4

you would actually like doing it full time i think because even after like a 10 day trip you're like

2:29.6

okay i'm really feels really good to be home. I think being in new environments just inspires me and

2:35.8

gets me excited and I love meeting people from all over too. I think every, every city, every

2:42.5

part of the country in the world has just its own DNA. It's just so unique and interesting and

2:48.9

I think it's fun. Mm-hmm. I think it's really fun. No, I agree. I just

2:53.1

am like full time would be crazy especially because now I'm like I'm pretty burnt out from travel.

2:57.9

Okay. Yeah. I don't want to be on a freaking airplane for. Hey, I can, which that's why we would

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