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Divided Argument

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Divided Argument

Will Baude & Dan Epps

Constitution, Constitutional Law, News, Law, Politics, Supreme Court, Government, Legal System, Supreme Court Of The United States, U.s. Supreme Court, Scotus, Supreme Court Justice

4.9676 Ratings

🗓️ 16 April 2025

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

We have another short administrative law episode, analyzing the Supreme Court's decision about e-cigarettes in FDA v. Wages and White Lion. But first we field some listener pushback about facial challenges in administrative law, and discuss the shadow docket ruling, and ensuing fallout, in Noem v. Abrego Garcia.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Oh, yay, oh, yay, oh, yay, oh, yeah.

0:03.3

The judicial power of the United States shall be vested in one Supreme Court.

0:08.0

Unless there is any more question to be able to find an argument in this case.

0:11.0

All persons having business before the Honorable, the Supreme Court of the United States, are in mind us to give their attention.

0:19.4

Welcome to Divided Argument, an unscheduled, un-predictable Supreme Court podcast.

0:24.6

I'm Will Vode.

0:25.6

And I'm Dianaps.

0:26.9

Back in the studio, Will, after what I'd like to think was a successful live show at Harvard,

0:32.6

I like doing those occasionally with you so we can reconnect in person.

0:36.8

Yeah.

0:37.0

Although you said you were concerned with the recording that it didn't quite capture the laughs we got from the audience.

0:45.5

Yeah, that's one thing I've noticed is that I think sometimes our editing is a little aggressive or maybe my memory is a little optimistic about how much people are looking.

0:53.0

Well, I think our mics are just very good and and the mics are designed to pick up close sounds and not pick up kind of atmospheric sounds.

1:01.3

So maybe we need an atmospheric mic to pick up the room.

1:04.2

You know, you know, it couldn't hurt.

1:06.8

Because sometimes the weird energy, I think, in the show comes to the fact that, like, oh, in this point, somebody was laughing, but you can't hear that anymore.

1:12.4

So it just sounds like we're shouting in the void.

1:15.4

That's possible.

1:16.4

So, you know, we'll see if people still keep complaining, complaining to you about me being nervous on the watch.

1:24.9

One of the thing I like about the live show, I was just realizing is, you know, when we did a live show, you play the intro music in the room right beforehand, which sort of gets me in the mood.

1:33.9

And we don't, we don't do this here.

1:35.4

We could just play that, like, for ourselves.

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