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Wyoming Catholic.edu. George Weigle joins us again today to discuss his new book,

To Sanctify the World, the Vital Legacy of Vatican II, a book that mixes behind-the-scenes

commentary with deeply learned discussions of Vatican history and the actual documents that came

out of this historic meeting. Welcome, George, once again. Thank you, Mark. Good to be with you.

You note at the start, from the mid-60s forward, the meaning and

implications of Vatican to have been contested nonstop. Why has it been so, George? Why no solid

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