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Varoufakis: My alternative to capitalism

Business Daily

BBC

News, Business

4.4796 Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2020

⏱️ 17 minutes

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Summary

With Covid rampaging and many economies on life-support, some say we need to look beyond capitalism. A blue-sky thinker, the outspoken former Greek finance minister, Yanis Varoufakis, gives his thoughts on a radical alternative to standard market economics, including making all employees shareholders in corporations. And Miatta Fahnbulleh, chief executive of the New Economics Foundation, imagines how this might ever be seriously attempted in practice.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello there, I'm Ed Butler.

0:03.3

Welcome to Business Daily from the BBC.

0:05.5

Today, one of the world's best-known economic contrarians

0:09.2

offers us his alternative to capitalism.

0:12.3

Maybe it is possible to combine efficiency with economic democracy.

0:16.0

If you have one share, one vote per employee,

0:25.2

and creating this kind of democratic corporation,

0:28.8

it would be unleashing the creative power of the market. A new vision for the company, Blue Sky Thinking, here on Business Daily from the BBC.

0:36.5

The collapse of the Soviet Empire back in the late 1980s created a bit of a problem, frankly

0:42.3

for some people, on the left of the political spectrum. Communism, it seemed, had decisively

0:48.0

failed, and radicals were left struggling to find an easy, clearly articulable alternative to

0:53.7

the standard mode of wealth creation,

0:56.7

the market. Capitalism, in other words. But right now, amidst the pandemic and all of the

1:01.8

special economic measures by which governments and central banks are trying to protect us from

1:07.4

the fallout, is that changing? Could something new, different, what you might

1:12.2

call post-capitalism, be with us rather sooner than we think? Look at financial markets at a time

1:20.2

when the real economy has tanked. There is a complete decoupling because of the role of central

1:27.4

banks and governments.

1:29.0

That's not capitalism. It's not what Adam Smith had in mind. It's not what Milton Friedman had in mind.

1:33.3

It's not what Friedrich von Haig had in mind.

1:35.6

So we're already, in my estimation, something that can be reasonably described as post-capitalism.

1:41.9

The question is, is it working?

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