Hey guys, little disclaimer. So life happens, you know, we're all moms, even our guest is a mom.

So yeah, we're gonna, you're gonna hear some of our kids in the background. That's gonna happen.

And oh, you want to hear a thunderstorm? Yep, that joins us on this episode too. And Kayla,

did you mention light drilling? I think there were some light drilling in the background as well,

but you know what? It doesn't even matter. The subject matter of this episode is so important,

and we are so excited to share it with you. Hey guys, it's Candice and Kayla and we are

directionally challenged. We thought we would have it all figured out by the time we were in our

30s. But surprise, we don't. No, we don't. We don't. But we are sitting down with someone who's

got a lot figured out. This is episode two of a two-parter with Meredith Berkman. She's one of the

co-founders of parents against vaping. If you didn't listen to last week's episode, we highly recommend

that you do. Meredith Berkman, Dorian Furman and Dina Alessi started their program

Pave Parents Against Baping e-segrettes in 2018. And there were just three concerned moms who started

a grassroots response to the youth vaping epidemic. After one of their sons came home and told

them about a ninth grade assembly, that a dual representative was present in and telling each

student that they were, quote unquote, totally safe. Parents Against Baping e-segrettes has become

an influential advocacy and education nonprofit run and powered by passionate volunteers across

the country. And we feel incredibly passionate about educating ourselves not only as women,

but as mothers, as friends, as partners, as humans in the world. And we are so grateful that

Meredith Berkman is joining us again to continue this conversation. So without further ado,

here is part two with Meredith Berkman of Pave. A lot of young people who started puffing jewels

thought this isn't really smoking. Like no one right think understood what, you know, if you see

five percent on a jewel pod and you're not a smoker, you don't understand nicotine, you don't

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