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Vanguard Estates: Can Robots Really Help the Aging?

Flash Forward

Flash Forward Presents

Science

4.81.6K Ratings

🗓️ 21 November 2022

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

In this series, we’re taking a look at some of the real science, policy, economics, law and ethics that inspired the events of Vanguard Estates. Today: can robots really help the aging? What are the pros and cons of these devices, and how do you evaluate their safety? Guests: Victor Wang: CEO of care.coach Dr. Amanda Lazar: assistant professor at the University of Maryland College of Information Studies Dr. Clara Berridge: associate professor at the University of Washington School of Social Work Laurie Orlov: founder of Aging and Health Technology Watch Kate Swaffer: activist & author, co-founder of Dementia Alliance International Nikki: care partner & founder of A Log Cabin in Brooklyn Dr. Tia Powell: psychiatrist and the director of the Center for Bioethics at Albert Einstein College of Medicine, author of the book Dementia Reimagined: Building a Life of Joy and Dignity from Beginning to End. → → → Further reading & resources here! ← ← ← Flash Forward is hosted by, Rose Eveleth and produced by Ozzy Llinas Goodman. The intro music is by Asura and the outro music is by Hussalonia. The episode art is by Mattie Lubchansky. Get in touch: Twitter // Facebook // Reddit // [email protected] Support the show: Patreon // Donorbox Subscribe: iTunes // Soundcloud // Spotify Episode Sponsors: Tavour: Tavour is THE app for fans of beer, craft brews, and trying new and exciting labels. You sign up in the app and can choose the beers you’re interested in (including two new ones DAILY) adding to your own personalized crate. Use code: flashforward for $10 off after your first order of $25 or more. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to Flash Forward.

0:10.4

I'm Rose and I'm your host.

0:12.7

Today we are going to talk about the technology piece of welcome to Vanguard Estates.

0:17.3

Again, this is one of five episodes about the real stuff that inspired the story.

0:21.3

So if you haven't listened to it and you care about having certain elements of the story spoiled,

0:26.4

now is the time to hit pause on this episode and go listen to the series.

0:31.3

Okay, great. Now let's talk about tech and I want to start with Missy.

0:36.8

Hello Marcus, nice to meet you.

0:39.6

Missy was loosely inspired by a real service called care.coach.

0:44.5

We coach people to improve self-care and health care outcomes and the dot means

0:51.0

that we do it through technology.

0:53.5

That's Victor Wang, the CEO of care.coach.

0:56.2

You have heard Victor on the show before back in 2018.

1:00.6

Care.coach is not robots.

1:03.0

Their system works via an app on a tablet.

1:06.4

Well, it looks like a adorable little dog or cat most of the time.

1:10.4

The avatar is the face for an entire global team of empathic and intelligent and caring people

1:20.3

who we call health advocates and we hire them like in the Philippines and Latin American

1:25.2

countries for Spanish and staff the avatar with all these great people and thereby

1:32.6

partially solve the caregiver crisis.

1:36.0

Basically what the app does is it consolidates a whole team of people into one avatar that the

1:41.6

user engages with and that cat or dog does everything from medication reminders to talking people

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