Vanessa Machado de Oliveira: Sensing into collapse and what it is asking of us
Green Dreamer: Seeding change towards collective healing, sustainability, regeneration
Kaméa Chayne
4.8 • 694 Ratings
🗓️ 19 February 2026
⏱️ 67 minutes
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Summary
How do we sit with our fears and discomforts around collapse? What might we miss when we demand quick fixes, takeaways, and summaries — without allowing our bodies to ferment and feel through the practices and experiences that could move us more deeply? And what does it mean to retune our literacy of the languages of the Earth?
In this episode, Green Dreamer’s Kaméa Chayne speaks with Vanessa Machado de Oliveira, whose latest book is Outgrowing Modernity: Navigating Complexity, Complicity, and Collapse with Accountability and Compassion.
Join us as we hold up a mirror to reflect on questions of complicity and collapse — while sensing into what these fractured times may be asking of us.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey, hey, it's your host, Kamea. I've been feeling kind of perpetually overwhelmed by the state of the world, |
| 0:07.4 | and I'm really realizing again how important it is to have a daily re-centering practice for myself. |
| 0:14.6 | So I've been really working on that, and I'm not sure how this may be finding you, |
| 0:19.3 | but I want to use this maybe as a gentle reminder |
| 0:22.2 | for you as well to also nurture a ritual or practice whatever that may look like that feels |
| 0:29.0 | the most grounding to you. And also, if you happen to be interested in working on this with me |
| 0:35.6 | and with us, I want to invite you to check out Alchemize, |
| 0:39.1 | Green Dreamers 12-week audio-based program of daily imagination and creative practices, inspired |
| 0:46.6 | by a lot of our show's inquiries, and led by a variety of our past guests, collaborators, and myself. |
| 0:54.0 | My inspiration to conceive this offering really came from this question, |
| 0:58.2 | what could it be like to partake in practices of mindfulness that aren't just about this |
| 1:03.1 | re-centering of us as individuals, but like practices of earthfulness. |
| 1:08.0 | So like moving from mindfulness to earthfulness that reroute our imagination |
| 1:13.6 | and embodiment in our deeper and broader webs of relations. This is the question that undergirds |
| 1:20.7 | the program as an invitation to move beyond engaging a lot of the topics that we talk about |
| 1:26.1 | on the show intellectually, but into |
| 1:28.3 | more embodied, sensorial, participatory, and creative ways. So yeah, Alchemize is now open for |
| 1:36.2 | enrollment again, and if this speaks to you, I welcome you to learn more at greendreamer.com slash alchemize. |
| 1:46.8 | Our way of thinking is part of the problem. We relate to the world through the concept, |
| 1:52.2 | and then we hug the concept as if it is reality. So when we say, for example, let's acknowledge |
| 1:57.7 | the land. Even if we say as a living entity, we understand acknowledge the land as a living entity as a constant, |
| 2:03.7 | rather than the thing is out there. |
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