Hello, everybody, welcome back to psychedelics today. Today in the show, we have Vanessa

Le Mestre. Really exciting conversation conversation it's a very different episode than

normal covering kind of like this more spiritual angle spiritualism mediumship psychedelics shamanism

and much more really fun conversation super happy if Vanessa joined us and reached out.

Really exciting kind of path to and some kind of overlap between what I've been up

to personally and what she's been up to.

So it's just really fun.

Kind of talk a lot about how could we integrate this stuff better, like how bad

suffering is for a lot of folks right now. I guess always is pretty bad and much more. So

I hope you like it. And yeah, I think that's it for now. So thanks again, Vanessa, and we'll see you on

the other side.

Hello everybody.

Welcome back to psychedelics today.

I'm here with Vanessa Le Mestre.

Thanks for joining us.

Thanks for having me.

I'm so excited to be here.

Really excited.

So you reached out a little while ago and shared a pretty interesting story with me about your kind of

development coming from not really being aware of psychedelics to becoming, you know, quite integral

to your life, it seems. And pretty large awakening. But how do we want to talk about your story?

So you're originally from Miami. You're living in Los Angeles and you did a degree in Noropa.

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