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Standard Issue Podcast

Vanessa Kisuule is in MJ recovery

Standard Issue Podcast

Standard Issue

Society & Culture

4.7 • 1.1K Ratings

🗓️ 10 September 2024

⏱️ 22 minutes

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Summary

Award-winning poet Vanessa Kisuule is, in her own words, “a recovering Michael Jackson obsessive”. Yeah, that’s a tricky one to negotiate. Fame and all of its disciples are at the heart of Vanessa’s debut non-fiction (non-poetry), Neverland: the Pleasures and Perils of Fandom, in which she explores the fan/celebrity relationship, the big feelings when someone we love – famous or not – falls from grace, and the problem with “monsters”. Our Mick got on the Zoom to find out more.  Neverland is published by Canongate on September 12. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Standard issue for all women.

0:10.0

Oh, hello there, it's Mickey. Standard issue for all women.

0:13.0

Oh, hello there, it's Mickey, welcoming you, if you're listening fresh, to Tuesday the 10th of September.

0:19.0

Do you know what that means? That means there has already been a Monday interview and it was a

0:23.9

corker because Jen was chatting vagina business with journalist Marina Gurner whose

0:28.8

new book looks at fem tech you know the new technology that could make women's

0:32.4

lives infinitely better that is mostly not being invested in yeah

0:36.3

probably gonna need a better rage for that one

0:38.3

tomorrow Hannah's pick of sideways gets a rated or dated treatment are sad secsack middle-aged men still ourselves 20 years later?

0:45.6

Find out! On Thursday, Jen and I are on Bush Telegraph duty bringing you our take on the frankly sole-destroying news, although we will try to find some

0:54.4

uplifting stuff too, I promise. And Friday's interview is another treat because

0:59.0

Han has been on the Zoom to chat with actor Saskia Reeves, brilliant in very many things but currently being brilliant as

1:05.2

Catherine Standish in slow horses. And you know we don't like to toot our own horn too much on standard issue,

1:12.2

but this episode in which I chat to poet Vanessa

1:14.9

Kasule about her debut non-fiction non-poetry is another blinder. Now Vanessa is what she terms a recovery Michael Jackson obsessive.

1:24.8

Yeah that is a tricky old fandom to negotiate eh?

1:28.6

But aren't they all? In Neverland, the pleasures and perils of fandom, Vanessa explores the fan celebrity relationship,

1:36.0

the big feelings we have when someone we love, famous or not, fall from grace, and the problem with monsters.

1:42.0

I mean, of course I was excited to chat with her.

1:45.2

Neverland is published by Kalingay on September the 12th and you can find details of the events

1:49.6

Vanessa is doing around it by following them on Twitter or Instagram.

1:55.2

Vanessa, hello and welcome to standard issue.

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