Thank you for having me and thank you for doing my podcast as well.

Oh sure. That was the only reason I did your podcast is so that you would come on this one.

So nice.

Yes. I do nothing without some form of quid pro quo.

Yeah, nothing for me. Nothing's free in this world and the sooner everyone figures that out, the better that they'll be with, you know, life.

That's Vanessa bear everyone.

That's the poll.

That's the poll quote from from this podcast.

So we're started. Thanks for tuning in Vanessa. We're doing this in studio.

Yeah, which is we're doing more and more. And it's always so nice because it, you know, it does, it does make a difference.

Yeah, there's zoom, you know, people complain about zooms, but zooms are really convenient.

They're oh, you don't have to go. It's just like, you know, you don't even you can wear such casual pants. Yes.

And no pants.

And it's like it's being home rocks, you know, and you don't even like there have been times to when I will just take the computer into a different room because it's like, oh, I don't want to clean up that pigstie.

I'll go into this.

Like my daughter's bedroom because and it looks like I'm a four or a 17 year old girl.

Yeah, but you know, no big deal.

I can have certain parts of a room clean. Yes.

And then just face the computer.

Exactly. Just angle it. So well, anyway, besides that, it's great to see you too.

And yes, I was on your podcast, would you do it with your brother? Yes.

You guys do you guys have done a number of things together.

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