Hey, everybody. I'm very, very happy that my guest today is one of my great heroes, Dr.

Vandana Shiva, who is the author, a physicist, an ecologist, an advocate of biodiversity,

conservation, and farmers' rights, probably the most influential international voice for

local agriculture, democratic agriculture for independent stewardship of the soils,

and against the commodification of agriculture and of nature by large corporations,

replying earing work around food sovereignty, traditional agriculture, women's rights,

created fundamental cultural shifts in how the world views these issues. Dr.

Shiva found it not Dunya, which is an organization which promotes agroecology,

seed freedom, and evasion of earth democracy, seeking justice for earth, and for all living beings.

She has authored more than 20 books, including reclaiming the commons, biodiversity,

indigenous knowledge, and the rights of mother earth. She is the member of the scientific committee

on foundation ideas, and she has received the right livelihood award in 1993, an honor known

as the alternative Nobel Prize. And, and as opposed to recent book, is agroecology and

generative agriculture, and it's a synthesis of more than three decades of interdisciplinary research

and practice, and it provides evidence-based solutions to some of the world's most pressing,

crises, and global ecology in agriculture, and pulling out welcome back to the podcast.

Hi, Bobby. So, tell us what drove you to write yet another book.

Well, there was one just came out just before that, which is a compilation of all the movements

that are finding out what Bill Gates is doing, which is called Philanthrop capitalism,

from the same publisher. And that's a movement book. The people fighting solar, genetic,

you know, solar engineering, dimming the sun, as a way to solve the climate problem,

fake food, control over health, all the issues that you deal with.

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