Well, my guest today is one of my favorite people in the world,

Fandana Shiva.

And after writing 20 books, you finally

decided to write your autobiography,

Terafi, which is just the description,

the chronicle of this incredible journey

that Fandana Shiva has led.

Fandana Shiva, for those of you who don't know her,

and she's been on this podcast before,

but I've been working with her for her since almost

the beginning of my career, since you,

I think in the 80s, it was the cheap of movement

that you had started where I first heard of you,

and we started kind of corresponding with each other.

But she's changed, Fandana's changed the world

the way the world thinks about relationship

between food and agriculture and democracy.

She's been one of the principal,

and I believe the most eloquent voices

against globalism, globalization,

and local sovereignty, local seeds, local democracy,

good food, the relationship between the soil and climate.

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