coming up on this episode of the roundtable.

I mean, J. Vance is like this,

that's the craziest life story of anybody,

but you know, he doesn't really get necessarily

the credit for it that you'd think he would? Well he did at first.

This was the beginning when he was sort of more of a lefty darling

and when he was more careful of Trump,

then Hillbilly Elgy was this grand feigning lament of the under her of the unheard right and then suddenly it became

weird like he had sex with a couch or whatever all these like crazy things they made

up about him but you're right like it's actually now that I think about it really

ironic that all but one of the candidates of the four candidates have now said this thing. I'm

from the middle class background. Trump obviously can't say it but in reality

one of the core problems that we are facing in this election and ongoing

crises is that there is no American middle class anymore. Like that's literally not a thing and that's a huge problem.

And so basically anybody from like in any way adjacent like anything other than being

literally Donald Trump having been raised I don't know with a trust fund or

whatever it sure that's middle class why not like it's, you know, there's, it's all just, you know, there's, it's all just a wash. The Hello and welcome once again to the roundtable your weekly publishers and editors

podcast here at the American Mind. I'm your host Spencer Clavin,

associate editor of the Claremont Review of Books and vaguely floating

editor of the American Mind. I am joined kind of a special lineup this week. First of all, Seth Barron is back in the virtual studio.

He's going to be joining us now intermittently on the podcast. Very glad to have him back. And we've got a special guest for this first

segment. Todd Benson is the author of Overrun How Joe Biden

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