Okay, it's the lady recording a podcast and a rental cart and airport parking lot for real alleywards. I'm here. It's spooked over. Okay, it's Halloween week this episode is

is so robust. It's so meaty and juicy. It's just going to bleed into November. This is a two-parter because it's that good. So this is part one. I talked to this

ologist for nearly two hours and I felt like I should have paid a price of admission for the conversation, which is I guess what his

college students do via just tuition, but I can tell you you're in for a treat and the trick is that you get it for free. So get excited. Now this

ologist came to my attention when someone encountered Dr. Lauren Esposito, the Scorpiology guest and grabbed Lauren's phone and texted me from her phone to please hunt this vampire

guy down. So Miranda, mostly I'm talking about you. You hooked it up. Well done. Thank you. Also, thank you to everyone for supporting at patreon.com slash

allergies. You support the show and you send in your vampire questions and I love you. You can join for as little as a dollar a month. So thank you to

everyone also wearing allergies merge from allergies merge.com and for supporting the show, you can do it for zero dollars just by subscribing and

rating and reviewing help so much. Yamajij left a review this week that said you will squeal with delight and in thought almost every

episode. So I hope you do that. You're going to do a lot of and a lot of what? So vampirology came from the word vampire, which may come from an old Slavic word

vape here or Turkish for which it's disputed, but vampirology is definitely a term. It's a word for the scholarly pursuit of this field. And this guest is just one of the

world's finest, a legend, no other vampirologist would do. So he got his PhD in Slavic languages at Ohio State University and is now a senior lecturer in Slavic and Eastern European

languages and cultures at Indiana University in Bloomington. And one of the schools no doubt most popular courses is his the vampire and European and American culture. This

episode is a wild ride. I don't know how we got him, but I love that we did. You're going to love him. So find a shady spot and prepare to drink in the functions of folklore, the mysteries of medicine, pale in

palers, sub tweeting, letharios, ghost story competitions, penny dreadfuls, plagiarism, zine art, lawsuits, destruction, resurrection, social taboos, weaponized fiction, escalating monster warfare, romanticism, and

propagandism with a professor who proves not all heroes wear vampires capes. Vampirologist Dr. Jeff Holderman.

Hi, my name is Jeff Holderman and I use he him pronouns and we edit to so we can stop start. We're not live at all. Wonderful. We are undead, Ali. We are undead.

I couldn't have said it better myself. I'm definitely talking to you. I think the best person in the world for an episode on vampireology. I think that would be theology this is.

I love your other podcasts where you have other great Greek sounding names and vampire, vampireology just is a little bit too transparent. Maybe like fangy, etology. If you want to have another option there. Vampireology is completely fine.

Hemophageology. Very good. Yes. Blood eating baby. Please understand that not all vampires drink blood. So they're not all hemophages.

Who doesn't which vampires don't drink blood? This is exciting already.

Oh, our psychic vampires. Oh my gosh. Okay. Have you been watching? I can tell you all about our different types of vampires as you like and stuff. But I already when you say have you been watching I already know that you're going to ask am I watching what we do in the shadows with Colin Robinson.

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