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Fareed Zakaria GPS

Vali Nasr on the Ceasefires in Iran and Lebanon; Orbán’s Defeat in Hungary

Fareed Zakaria GPS

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4.23.1K Ratings

🗓️ 19 April 2026

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

Today on the show, with the US-Iran ceasefire set to expire on Wednesday, the shaky ceasefire between Israel and Lebanon, and continued chaos in the Strait of Hormuz, Vali Nasr joins to discuss what might come next in the Middle East. Then, in a stunning defeat Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán lost his reelection campaign after more than a decade in power. Fareed speaks with Atlantic staff writer Anne Applebaum about what this might mean for populism in Europe.  Finally, New Yorker staff writer Patrick Radden Keefe joins the show to discuss his new book, “London Falling,” about a teenager’s mysterious death in London, and the city's shadowy underworld that it revealed. GUESTS: Vali Nasr (@vali_nasr), Anne Applebaum (@anneapplebaum), Patrick Radden Keefe (@praddenkeefe)  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

This is GPS, the Global Public Square.

0:04.0

Welcome to all of you in the United States and around the world.

0:07.0

I'm Farid Zakaria, coming to you live from New York.

0:11.0

Today on the program, I'll bring you the latest on the Middle East conflict.

0:15.0

The ceasefires, the strait of hormones, and more peace talks between the U.S. and Iran.

0:20.0

All with Vali Nasser, a top scholar on the region.

0:23.6

Then, Orban is out. The Hungarian authoritarian was voted out of office seven days ago.

0:30.6

His soon-to-be successors already making major waves. What might this ouster mean for other illiberal regimes? Anne Applebaum, the

0:40.2

Pulitzer Prize-winning historian, weighs in. Finally, a body of a well-off teenager is discovered on

0:47.0

the banks of the Thames. Unraveling this mystery exposes London's shadowy underworld and much more.

0:55.0

The New Yorker's Patrick Radenkeef tells me all about his fantastic new book, London falling.

1:02.0

But first, here's my take.

1:07.0

Something puzzling is happening on the world stage.

1:10.0

The United States has been infuriating much of the world by being reckless, erratic and lawless,

1:15.6

launching unilateral military actions, roiling the global economy, upending alliances,

1:21.6

and treating long-held norms as inconveniences.

1:25.6

And yet China, the world's rising superpower, has not piled on with thunderous denunciations

1:32.3

and proclaimed itself the responsible alternative to an unreliable America.

1:37.3

Understanding why will help us better grasp Beijing's long game.

1:43.3

I spent the last week in China and was struck by how many people there felt differently

1:49.0

about this latest American war in the Middle East compared to the last major one.

1:54.0

During the Iraq War, Chinese strategists seemed almost gleeful at the spectacle of America

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