Valerie! Long time no see! Let me see, is that a dog you have next to you? He's as big as a dog. Now this is, this is ticker. Oh my, wait, you have to be kidding me with that cat.

Welcome to Literally. I mean, come at me if you think that there's anybody other than Valerie Burton, Ellie, the America sweetheart. I think it's her. I really do. We're going to get into some good stuff. I'm going to get some van Halemann.

We're going to crack the door open on Van Halemann. We're going to crack the door open on her participation in Battle of the Network Stars, which to me is like winning an Oscar. And of course, talk about a addiction and recovery, which you know I love talking about. So let's get to it with Valerie Burton, Ellie.

When do you think the first time we met was? I think it was in the, I want to say the mid 80s in Malibu. I was hanging out with Ali Shidi a lot before she came to New York. And you know, you knew Ali. Yeah, of course. And somehow, I don't know what happened. We all met up at Zuma.

Because didn't didn't you and Ed live like above like a Malibu park area like a boat. Yes, up.

Trankus. Trankus. I still have that home. Really?

Yeah, I that's good. That's going to Wolfie when I die. It's one of those houses that needs to just keep going through the family.

In the family. Yeah, is it is it literally up in the like is it like it's up above the market, right? Up in that area?

It's on a cliff. It's 104 steps down to the beach. So do you remember when Trankus market had like that little stage and bands would play? Of course. Yeah. But it was great then.

That was I saw I mean I saw Mick Fleetwood sitting in I saw I mean it was always it feels like what's his name? Oh hang on that song. It's you and me and we just did Dave Mason. Oh, it felt like it was always Dave Mason. It was a cool little hang.

It was good. Yeah Ed did Ed never played there though that I know of I don't I think he might have gotten up with some friends that were that booked a gig there.

I feel like maybe he did I wish to go watch football over there on all the TV. Yeah, it was fun. It's very different now.

You know, I mean Malibu now is like I mean when I move there now it didn't used to be Hoi Ditoiti.

Now when I moved to Malibu in 1976 people rode their horses to the market. There was a hitching post. Wow. So you were before me because I didn't move there till 84.

Did you ever participate in battle of the network stars? I feel like you did a couple times. Yes. Actually. Do you know I am obsessed with battle and network stars? Stop it. No, I see it. Where do you see it?

I used to go to Pepperdine and watch them film it and I loved it because when people don't because listen in those days there were three networks.

Three that was it. There was only thing on TV. Three network Fox didn't even exist. That's true. Yeah. Yeah. I think that it was battle of the network stars where I met Melissa. Is that why you were there?

Yes. That must have been it. It was the year that must have been I was there with Melissa Gilbert my girlfriend at the time and that's where I would have met you for the first time. And in those days.

Okay, here if they were to redo battle of the network stars today. It would literally be.

Imagine the HBO team versus the Netflix team versus the NBC's which means like the game of Thrones guys would be in a canoe and and like the sopranos would be in the fucking.

You know, but there would be like to you'd have to do like a you know the like the final 16 the NCAA you'd have to do it like that the sweet and have to like to work it down because there be too many teams. There's so many channels on television now or television.

You can call it television streaming.

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