Welcome to Nobody Told Me. I'm Jan Black. And I'm Laura Owens. Let's face it, there are a few things in life that hurt more than a broken heart. Dr. Guy Wynch is the author of the new book, How to Fix a Broken Heart, which aims to help people heal after a breakup or death of someone that they love. He's a licensed psychologist, author, and in-demand keynote speaker who's a leading advocate for integrating the science of emotional health into every single aspect of our daily

lives. His viral TED talk, which is awesome, everyone should watch it, why we all need to practice

emotional first aid has been viewed more than five million times and is rated among the top five

most inspiring talks of all time on TED.com, which is a hell of an achievement. Dr. Wynch, welcome to the show.

Thank you very much for having me. So how did you become so interested in having a career

dedicated to emotional science? So I'm a psychologist, and when I got my degree, the model that

they told us that the ideal was in graduate school was the

scientist practitioner model, the way you learn to be a clinician, but you become a consumer

and a creator of science as well. And that was, turns out that was a lot of lip service because

people chose one or the other. They became clinicians and never looked at a journal again or they became scientists and

never looked at a patient again.

And I actually remained true to that in some way.

I became a clinician, but I was always reading science journals to see updates because

there's so many of them.

And, you know, I started seeing a lot of research about heartbreak,

and I certainly encountered that in my practice. And between those two, I, that was heartbreak.

But in general, I saw a lot of research that was about, you know, things, common experiences we all have.

And the research is written for other researchers. It's not really user-friendly

for clinicians or certainly for the public. And I would translate little interventions that I could make

out there and try them on my patients. And they would be like, oh, that was useful. And so I started doing that

more and more. And then I started writing books to kind of bring that to the rest of the world.

What was that like to sit across from hundreds, if not thousands of patients over the years

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