Hello, and welcome back my fellow historians checking out our unusual start time.

It is officially 10 p.m. on Saturday, we usually do these at three on Sunday, Eastern, that

is.

But we have a great reason for that.

It's a fun to do it at an unusual time, but it's not just randomly chosen to be fun.

It's because our guest is in China, and that's a long way away.

The time difference is substantial.

So for him, it would have been three o'clock in the morning, but we're not trying to get

people to come at three o'clock in the morning.

So welcome back.

How dare you live in China?

But of course that makes you an excellent guest for this discussion today, not only because

you live in China and have a deep connection to it, because you are also the host of the

history of China podcast, and that is extremely relevant to our topic of E.T. today.

So welcome to the show, Chris Stewart.

Well, thank you very much.

Guilty as charged on all accounts, and I'll have to get here.

Right on.

So we're both in the Agora podcast network.

It's great to be in that collection of excellent podcasters.

And we've been in there for a while, a few years together there, and it's been a lot

of fun.

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