You're listening to Song Exploder, where musicians take apart their songs and piece by piece, tell the story of how they were made. I'm Rishikesh, your way.

When Latissia Tamco started making the second vagabond album, she really wanted to produce the entire thing on her own.

It would be a new sound and producing was still a relatively new skill for her, but she wanted to tackle it head on and do it all herself.

On this song, though, water me down. Latissia actually had a co-producer, Eric Litman. It's the one exception to her otherwise entirely self-produced album.

In this episode, she breaks down how she and Eric collaborated to make the song and why it was worth making that exception.

Hi, I'm Latissia Tamco and I make music as vagabond.

I was at my friend Eric Litman's house in Bushwick, New York.

We met at a mountain show. Our friend used to host these shows where you hike up a mountain with your instruments in Cold Spring, New York, and you play at different points of the hike.

So I performed one in Eric, was just needed a ride. So we met through the carpool and became great friends.

He is someone who has been really supportive of my journey as a producer.

During the winter, every Wednesday we would get together and make music. So we were in his very small bedroom.

And the plan was to demo a vagabond song that I had started writing a few days earlier.

So I came there with the intention of recording another song.

And then he showed me this synth line that he had started working on for another project.

I heard it and I was like, oh my god, what is that?

I've been playing around a little bit with my mini-log and I made this patch.

It's this very soft keyboard kind of sound.

I was just playing around with a couple chords and then was playing around with a lead line with some delay where the notes kind of cascade into each other.

And then, you know, I added this fluttery MS-20 lead line.

The MS-20, it's a synthesizer based synth essentially.

And you can kind of make any sound from it.

And I heard this 909 kick.

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