Gearing from people around the world is a stark reminder that as much as COVID-19 changed our lives

here in the United States, it did not restrict our lives to the degree by a long shot that it did

in other countries. That we had a lot of guidance, but very little enforcement. People were free

to kind of take them and figure out which ones they were going to adhere to and which they weren't.

And so you see the dramatic differences in results based on that.

This is Sarah and Beth, you're listening to Pantsy Politics, the home of Grace-filled political conversations.

Hello, everyone. Welcome to another episode of Pantsy Politics. On today's show,

we're going to start a conversation about the conflict in Israel right now that we hope to

continue over the next few weeks. We're also going to talk about the vaccine situation around

the world. And we're going to wrap up the show by talking about vaccine etiquette. Like,

can you ask if someone's vaccinated? Can you share that you're vaccinated? We're going to,

we're trying to get into those murky waters a little bit on outside of politics. But before we

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Beth, you had the best framing for this conversation we want to have about Israel and Palestine.

Well, thank you. I think a framing about what's happening between Israeli and Palestinian people is

incredibly complicated and totally fraught here in America. And I think we project a lot of our

own stuff on it and miss a lot of what's really going on there. And so I try to start by remembering

that there are people like whole people just like you and me who are Palestinian and who are

Israeli who just want to live their lives and they want to have a job and a place to live,

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