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What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Vaccine Skeptics Just Scored a Big Win

What Next | Daily News and Analysis

Slate

News, Daily News, News Commentary, Politics

4.62.3K Ratings

🗓️ 16 June 2025

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. fired all 17 members of the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices, accusing members of serving industry interests and never recommending against a vaccine. Their role, however, was advising on usage for vaccines that the FDA already approved.  As RFK Jr. restaffs the committee with his own “nonpartisan” members, where does that leave vaccines and the state of American health? Guest: Noel Brewer, Gillings Distinguished Professor in Public Health at the University of North Carolina. Want more What Next? Subscribe to Slate Plus to access ad-free listening to the whole What Next family and across all your favorite Slate podcasts. Subscribe today on Apple Podcasts by clicking “Try Free” at the top of our show page. Sign up now at slate.com/whatnextplus to get access wherever you listen. Podcast production by Ethan Oberman, Elena Schwartz, Paige Osburn, Anna Phillips, Madeline Ducharme, and Rob Gunther. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:03.9

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0:53.7

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0:54.5

everything secure. I was able to get Dr. Noel Brewer on the line because he had a sudden

1:06.2

opening in his schedule. Usually at 3 p.m. on a Thursday, that's when we spoke, he'd be in a working

1:13.1

group meeting for the CDC's Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices. Insiders call this group

1:20.1

ASIP. But last week, Dr. Brewer and all of his colleagues, got fired.

1:30.7

I got an email from a journalist who said,

1:34.0

look at this article in the Wall Street Journal.

1:35.8

It says something that might interest you,

1:37.2

and I read it and found out that I've been fired.

1:39.4

First time I've ever been.

1:40.1

Hold it, hold it, hold it.

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