one two, skinned patients. Yeah.

Vaccines, let's talk about them right now. There's so much going on. And I think it's freaking people

out to the point where they don't want to take this vaccine anymore. And honestly, if I'm putting

everything out there right now, the vaccines are our main hope to end the pandemic quickly and

get back to whatever the new normal is. And I say new normal because the old normal sucked. I

don't want to go back to that. I don't want to go back to sitting in traffic and suffering

through in person meetings that are useless when we can actually learn stuff from the pandemic.

But taking our masks off, hugging our friends, going back to concerts. Yes. Yes. And yes. And yes.

And how do we get there? We vaccinate enough of the population that the cases decline and we

protect vulnerable people. And it may not be full herd immunity, but we get darn close. Remember

that herd immunity. I like the term community immunity. It is, it's not a fixed number. What it

says is there's just not enough targets of opportunity for the virus to spread rampantly like a

brush fire. It's kind of like when you look at wildfires, wildfires spread fast in California now

because there's been years of drought, things are dried out and a bunch of fuel is built up. So any

spark has an easy place to go and ignite a new brush fire. That's how early pandemic was when

no one had real immunity to this thing, right? So what the vaccines do and natural infection,

like like Jay Bada Chariah, who was on the show the other day, he said, you know, people who

deny that natural infection induces immunity are immunity deniers. It does, right? And whether it's

a degree that the vaccines do or not, it's, it's almost irrelevant because as long as you have some

immunity, right? You're going to reduce the targets of opportunity for the virus. So where does

herd immunity come in? It comes in when they're just simply aren't enough targets. There aren't enough

dead, you know, sort of sort of fuel in the underbrush that's been building up. That's easy.

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