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Welcome to the latest United We Stand podcast,

and we're speaking the morning after Manchester United have been eliminated from the Champions League.

And it feels as bad as it did in Wolfsburg when it was freezing in 2015 or against Sevilla,

which was the beginning of the end for Jose, just like Wolfsburg was the beginning of the end for Louis Van Hal.

Or an Olympi Arcos under David Moyes, although United won the home leg and went through to play games by in Munich before going out in 2014.

United had been knocked out of Europe, well, almost every season,

unless they're winning the competition,

but it doesn't get easier with time.

It still feels really disappointing,

especially after the team started this group stage so well,

with that wonderful win in Paris and put in five past R.B. at Old Trafford.

And then there was the game in Istanbul.

When I was there, I was with Matt Ford.

We spoke after that game.

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