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Welcome to the latest United Restan.

Podcast. I'm with Mark Ogden, who's the senior football writer for ESPN and Mark's a Manchester lad.

And he's been on this podcast several times before.

The last time we spoke was in Michigan preseason ahead of Manchester lad. And he's been on this podcast several times before. The last time we spoke was in Michigan preseason ahead of Manchester United and Liverpool when Liverpool won 4-1 and it was a pretty weak United side and Andreas Pereira scored a great goal.

And Mark had a lot of concerns about United and a lot of them have turned out

to be true and I can remember about that day there'd be more Liverpool fans in the ground

and some United fans just not accepting that and I'm like no no I'm here there are more Liverpool

fans here no no no no no no no no I'm telling you just accept it there are more Liverpool fans here and that, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'm telling you. Just accept it. There are more Liverpool fans here. And that, that stung me a little bit because Liverpool are a great, huge club. But Manchester United have usually got the edge on him in most areas, certainly not on the field this season. And the season's coming to a close, and it's not been a good one for for Manchester United has it, Mark? No, it's been pretty grim and I think there's a lot of clues that day in Michigan. I think was it four-one to Liverpool that day? They got absolutely hammered and I think Marino was at his most downbeat worst after the game. he was just digging everybody out and...

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