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Welcome to the latest unit we stand podcast and I'm in my usual seat in the Trafford centre.

I never planned it to be like this but Mike Feele and arranged to meet me here

and then Ben Fawley last week.

And now I'm sat with another former Manchester United player,

Billy Garten.

If you read my book on the 80s,

Billy's chapter was probably the one that got the most well received.

Well, that and John Gidman's and john's just

brought scandalous laughs from people and john's been on this podcast we know what john's like

he's a character at a capital c and i've written a few things about billy and it's a solford lad

he think he played 50 times for Manchester United.

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