Thank you for joining us for episode 419 of Live Happy Now.

With Memorial Day behind us, our thoughts are turning to summer vacations.

We know they're fun, but do you know how good they are for us?

I'm your host, Paula Phelps, and this week I'm talking with Andrew Stevenson,

a social anthropologist, filmmaker,

and senior lecturer in psychology at the Manchester Metropolitan University.

Andrew's new book, The Psychology of Travel, looks at what travel can do for us, and he's here

today to talk about how we can approach it differently to get the most out of it.

Let's have a listen.

Andrew, thank you for joining me on Live Happy Now.

Thank you so much for having me. And it's a pleasure to be here. And hopefully we can have a

good conversation about travel and health.

Yes. It's, oh, it's such a wonderful. First of all, it's timely because the audience

doesn't know until right now that on the day we're talking, it's such a wonderful. First of all, it's timely because the audience doesn't know until

right now that on the day we're talking, it's the day your book is being published. So it's a very,

very great day for you. It's a good day. This is a project which really came out of the pandemic,

I suppose, when we had a lockdown imposed upon us and there was no opportunity to travel. I was thinking

about travel a lot over about a year or 18 months and decided to put some of my interest

in psychology alongside my interest in travel. And I was quite surprised how many different directors.

I do want to dive into that answer just a little bit. What made you

decide to look at it through the lens of psychology? Can you tell us a little bit about your

background and why that was the natural path for you to go down? Yeah, well, I, in my day job,

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