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Welcome to GrowCooked Eat Arrange, the podcast of me, Sarah Raven, and my friend Arthur Parkinson.

This week, as we get towards the end of the year, we thought we would do a kind of resume, I suppose, in a way, of all our favourite bigger things for the garden.

Because we don't talk about that very much.

We tend to talk about lots of annual flowering plants and, well, daily is quite big.

But anyway, we thought today we'd talk about shrubs, trees and climbers kind of in general really.

I have just got back from a trip to the Netherlands and I went to visit a few gardens in a place called Loisden.

I've probably pronounced that wrong.

But there was one in particular that I found completely exhilarating and exciting. And it was a garden of someone called Marika

Nolson. And I was taken there by my Dutch friend, Dickie Skipper. And it was just movingly beautiful

combination of hydrangeas with, funnily enough, small crab apples.

And there were lots of other plants.

But it was just, it was a shade garden.

And it was under these huge ancient oak trees in this rather beautiful old, rather grand country park.

And the garden is built around what was an estate building.

And it picks up the theme of pale yellow, very pale, sort of odinil, soft green, and then greens. And I just found her use of little small crab apples

prune very, very hard, almost, I mean, not bonside, but really pruned very hard into

either squares or lollipops or whatever. They just look wonderful with the combination of the hydrangeas.

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