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Susan, I love to talk to reporters about books they write.

And the first question I always ask is what nugget or nuggets are you most proud of

that readers can find in this

book? You know, there are a couple. Let me tell you one and not say it's necessarily my favorite.

Okay. President Trump, when I interviewed him for the book, told me about a phone call that Queen

Elizabeth made to him that had never been reported before. It was in the aftermath of the leak of these memos by the British ambassador making devastating

assessment of Trump during his first term that resulted in the ambassador being no longer the ambassador.

And the queen called and he described the conversation's way she apologized well she didn't

exactly apologize but she thought he was a fool she didn't say he was a fool but and clearly she

had managed to smooth those very troubled waters without actually throwing her ambassador under the

bus and this phone call had never surfaced before and that anecdote that nugget as I've

having read the book is a through line through her queenship doing that thing you just described

smoothing waters without doing one thing overtly or another.

You know, when I was thinking about this book, it was a quote from President Clinton

in his memoirs that made me think maybe there was a book here. And in his, after he met with the

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