Coming up on the Mark Devine show, the patient is to say, my doctor, my doctor, what does that mean?

They have trust in that individual.

is always changing and the doctor used to say my patient that doesn't mean a sign of

possession it means taking responsibility.

So trust, responsibility, doctor-patient relationship.

Today, it's going. Hi, this is Mark Devine, and this is the Mark Devine show.

Thank you so much for joining me today.

Super stoked to talk to people from all walks of life who are at the top of their game doing extremely

interesting and important work in the world. I talk to folks such as NASA

astronauts and Navy SEALs, elite athletes, top CEOs, and today I'm going to be talking to a lifetime surgeon,

a meritor, professor of surgery, and biomedical engineering.

Henry Buchwald, MD, PhD, and a bunch of other letters.

He's the Owen H and Sarah Davidson Wanginson chair

in experimental surgery at the University of Minnesota,

and he's a graduate of Columbia College

and Columbia Medical School. He's written over 350 publications 10 books and his

latest book is called Health Care Upside Down,

which will be discussing today.

Dr. Buchwald, thanks so much for joining me

on the Mark Devine show.

And me, thanks for joining me today on the Mark Devine show. I want to start just. Thank you're Thank you.

I want to start just like what were some of the forces that forged and shaped who you were,

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