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USA Fencing Supports Men Fighting Women

Crain & Company

The Daily Wire

Sports

3.51.6K Ratings

🗓️ 5 April 2025

⏱️ 12 minutes

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Summary

They’re letting dudes fence women now — and one woman took a stand. In this episode, we break down the controversy, USA Fencing’s response, and the bigger conversation around fairness in women’s sports. Ep.737 - - - Today's Sponsor: Good Ranchers - Visit https://goodranchers.com for free bacon, ground beef, bacon, seed oil-free chicken nuggets, or wild-caught salmon in every order for a year + $40 off with code BOOSTER.

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0:00.0

We have another example of men and women's sports, and this time they gave the dude a sword.

0:06.7

Fellas, once again, we have an example of men and women's sports.

0:11.9

And we've heard, you know, the Fallin Fox, UFC thing, now it's getting even worse.

0:17.8

They're giving the dude swords to go against the women.

0:20.6

If you haven't heard,

0:21.7

Stephanie Turner, who's a fencer, forfeited her match, took a knee because she was going to have

0:28.4

to fence against a transgender female. Redmond Sullivan. At first, I thought it was the guy from

0:34.6

the blacklist, but turns out that's... No, that's Raymond Redington. That's Raymond Reddington. That was a different one.

0:39.1

I'm sure a lot of people just have, like, fatigue from hearing about this, but if you don't call it out every time, I feel like it's going to become the norm.

0:47.0

What are we doing, dog?

0:48.1

This is a new sport. I haven't heard of this one with the transgender issue yet. Have you guys? No, but it's all ancillary. And I do want to get into just the concept of fencing, kind of like we talked about with chess that time, because we even had an incident with this with chess. So I want to get into that. But just a little more backstory first. Yes, Stephanie Turner, she's 31. She began fencing 12 years ago when she was 19. And this instance happened at an event called the Cherry Blossom Open at the University

1:12.1

of Maryland. Turner actually had a previous experience avoiding a trans opponent in the summer of

1:16.7

2013. She saw reports of a trans athlete who she had previously known as a biological fencer by

1:22.6

another name. When she saw the athlete was listed, she decided not to go to that tournament.

1:27.8

And I thought this was really telling when, and we have the video of what she said to Fox News,

1:32.8

but Stephanie Turner also said a lot of my friends are also in the LGBT community,

1:37.6

and I don't want them to be mad at me for this.

1:39.9

I love them on a personal level.

1:41.8

This will probably destroy my life.

1:43.9

It's very hard for me to do this.

1:45.6

That's a young girl right there who's compassionate about her friends who are part of this community.

1:49.8

And she says, this will destroy my life, but I'm standing up for my values and not having to fence against a man.

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