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Beyond Today

US shootings: can you shut down the white nationalists?

Beyond Today

BBC

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4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 5 August 2019

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

Two mass shootings in 24 hours have shocked America: the first in El Paso, Texas and the other in Dayton, Ohio. 29 people have lost their lives. The El Paso shooter opened fire in a Walmart store only a few miles from the Mexican border. Police are treating the attack as domestic terrorism after finding an anti-immigrant “manifesto” on 8chan - a forum that promotes freedom of speech. We speak to Michael Wendling from BBC Trending about how 8chan came to be taken offline. The BBC’s security correspondent Gordon Corera tells us why the security services are finding it tough to police white supremacist violence. Producers: Seren Jones, Philly Beaumont Mixed by Nico Raufast Editor: John Shields

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, music radio podcasts.

0:06.6

Hello, I'm Matthew Price.

0:08.2

This is Beyond Today from BBC Radio 4.

0:10.9

Every day we ask one big question about one big story.

0:14.0

Today, can you shut down the white nationalists?

0:27.0

So far this year there have been more mass shootings in the US than days.

0:39.0

That fact is on a website run by the gun violence archive.

0:42.2

They're not aligned with any gun campaign. They simply

0:44.8

say they monitor mass shootings which they classify as four or more people shot or killed.

0:50.6

Both the shootings over the weekend in the US fall into that category.

0:54.0

The first was in the Texas City of El Paso.

0:58.0

It happened in a Walmart.

1:00.0

Oh my god.

1:02.0

Go! Let's go! Oh my last time's coming out!

1:04.0

Let's go!

1:05.0

Run, run, run, run!

1:09.0

Then, run! Then, run! Then, run! Then, Then, the Dayton shooting in Ohio on the street outside a crowded bar.

1:14.3

We're a go shots fired.

1:18.3

Two great American cities separated by more than 1,300 miles are united tonight in grief.

1:25.7

I'm really paying attention but I heard do, do, do, do, and then it went, do, pop, he's going for that

1:30.8

semi, trigger finger, he's going, going, going, going.

1:33.0

I heard people yelling, Ryan, shooter, heard the gunshot.

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