All right, Alexander, let's talk about what is going on in Project Ukraine, the diplomacy that is taking place,

Wittkov in St. Petersburg, meeting with the Russian president, the continued escalation from the Europeans,

the possibility of tourist missiles now going to Ukraine.

The Europeans want to escalate. Whitkoff wants a deal. Kellogg and Walt and all of these guys, they want an unconditional ceasefire.

They're aligned with the Europeans.

So Trump is not taking a side.

He's kind of playing it down the middle.

Okay, maybe that's an acceptable policy.

Maybe you can make the argument as long as he doesn't side with Kellogg and the unconditional ceasefire.

Then you could kind of escape Project Ukraine, the catastrophe that is Project Ukraine.

But the best outcome would be if he followed the Whitkoff track. Obviously that would be the best outcome would be if he if he followed the the whitkoff track obviously that would be

the best outcome trump did start to say that this is biden's war which is an interesting change of

message yes perhaps that means something of course he can flip-flop back to puttits to blame

position again in another statement.

You don't know.

Anyway, what are your thoughts on what is happening?

Well, if you remember last week, I think it was last week, we did a program in which

we said that there were clearly two parallel Ukraine policies being followed.

One was a sort of neocon-light foreign policy, Waltz Rubio Kellogg,

which basically saw this as forcing the Russians to accept a ceasefire, getting the European

troops into Ukraine, ultimately preserving the possibility of one day Ukraine joining NATO, but allowing the

Russians in the meantime to control the areas that they control in Eastern Ukraine, what

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