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Thinking LSAT

US News Revamps Rankings (Ep. 384)

Thinking LSAT

Nathan Fox and Ben Olson

Education

4.8 • 868 Ratings

🗓️ 9 January 2023

⏱️ 73 minutes

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Summary

US News & World Report is changing the way it ranks law schools. A recent letter to law school deans outlines updates to the ranking methodology, including reduced emphasis on reputational surveys. On today’s pod, Ben and Nathan predict the impact that these changes may have on the rankings and on the law school scholarship game. Later, the guys weigh the importance of GPA versus school reputation on law school applications, recommend strategies for networking with lawyers, and warn a new LSAT student not to aim too high too soon.

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0:59 - US News Ranking Methodology - Listener Kris shares information about upcoming changes to US News’s ranking methodology. The biggest change: US News will give less weight to reputational surveys, which previously accounted for 40% of a law school’s assessment.

19:26 - Pearls vs. Turds - Listener Ana passes along some sage advice: “you get good at what you practice.” Nathan and Ben see this philosophy as crucial to LSAT prep—practice incorrectly and you’ll just reinforce an approach that makes you worse at the test. Listener Alex then describes the “rule of thirds” for judging your progress toward a challenging goal.

32:14 - GPA vs. School Reputation - An anonymous listener asks whether attending an “easy A” religious college will be held against them on their law school applications. Ben and Nathan maintain that an applicant’s GPA matters more than the school they attended.

43:04 - Networking with Lawyers - Listener Sidney is interested in learning what it’s like to work as a family lawyer. Nathan and Ben recommend some networking strategies.

54:32 - More Gladwell Shade - TLP producer Erik recommends an episode of the podcast If Books Could Kill that eviscerates Malcolm Gladwell’s Outliers.

57:32 - One Step at a Time - An anonymous student just began studying and aims to score 173. Ben and Nathan worry that this goal might be counterproductive: aiming too high too soon can tempt students to sacrifice accuracy for speed.

1:04:00 - Canadian Law Schools - Demon student G requests an episode focused on Canadian law schools. The guys recommend that G check out these episodes of LSAT Demon Daily:

1:06:40 - ABA 509 Confusion - Nathan and Ben share an anonymous listener’s frustration over confusing ABA 509 reports. These reports are imperfect, but they’re still an applicant’s best source of information regarding law school scholarships.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to episode 384 of the Thinking Elsap podcast.

0:11.8

Ben Olson with me is Nathan Fox.

0:14.0

We're the co-founder of Elsad Demon.com

0:17.0

and the Elsad Demon Daily Podcast.

0:20.0

If you want to get Elsat, become Elsat famous, share some news or ask some questions.

0:26.0

You can do so on our website that's thinking-L-Sat.com.

0:29.6

This episode will air Monday, January 9th.

0:33.0

I don't think we have anything huge coming up, right?

0:36.0

The January scores are going to come out on February 1st,

0:39.0

but you can find all that at Elsat.

0:40.0

link forward slash dates.

0:42.0

Is there anything you wanted to add to that, Nathan?

0:44.8

No, January, L-Sats right around the corner.

0:46.8

You've already missed the registration deadline

0:48.6

for the February test.

0:50.2

So the next thing, really, to keep your eye on is the March 2nd registration deadline for the April 2023 test.

0:58.0

Right. Well, let's dive in here. We have an email from Chris.

1:04.2

It says, Ben and Nathan, I've attached a Wall Street Journal

1:06.7

subscription article I found this morning

1:08.5

that breaks down some US News and World Report news.

1:12.2

It's a bit lengthy, but here's my pithy synopsis for the pod.

1:17.0

On Monday, January 2nd, US News and World Report sent a letter to 188 law school deans outlining the following changes to their

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