Hello everybody and welcome back to RevLeft Radio.

On today's episode we have back on a multi-time guest Alexander Ovenia, the professor of history

from ASU.

He's on to talk about his recent spat of articles, a part one and part two, in foreign exchanges

a sub-stack called the American Maginol Line and it's really an investigation in an analysis

of the US-Mexico borderlands, the role that the border and the borderlands around it have

played in American history and how the maintenance and policing of that border was part and parcel

with broader processes of settler colonialism and US imperialism.

So this is a really fascinating, interesting and genuinely unique dive into this topic

and I'm really happy to be able to share this conversation with you today.

So without further ado, here is my wonderful conversation with professor Alexander Ovenia

on his article, The American Maginol Line and US-Mexico Borderlands.

My name is Alex Ovenia, a history professor at Arizona State University and thank you

for having me back on, but I don't know, fourth or fifth episode.

I can't even keep track of it.

But it's great, so I love coming back and conversing with you.

Absolutely it's an honor to have you back on and this topic is a very interesting one.

I'm glad we're going to be able to dive into a erota series of articles titled The American

Maginol Line, Part 1 and Part 2, through which you kind of discuss and analyze and critique

the history of the borderland between the US and Mexico and how that border was really

in so many ways, the training grounds for the broader imperialist and colonialist endeavors

that the US would fall into as they became an empire.

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