US fossil fuels vs. Chinese clean tech, who’s winning on exports?
Zero: The Climate Race
Bloomberg
4.7 • 219 Ratings
🗓️ 13 October 2025
⏱️ 12 minutes
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Summary
There’s a battle underway to win the energy export market between the world’s two largest economies: The US wants the world to buy its fossil fuels, while China wants to sell the world its clean energy technologies. For now, there is a clear winner: China. How did that happen? Akshat Rathi and Oscar Boyd discuss.
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| 0:23.0 | Listen to IVF Disrupted, the Kind Body Story, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. |
| 0:32.5 | Welcome to Zero. I'm Oscar Boyd. |
| 0:34.7 | Today, a milestone for clean tech. |
| 0:37.4 | Hello, Aksha. Hi. So everyone listening will know that you |
| 0:40.5 | usually host this podcast, but they might not know that you also regularly write a newsletter for Bloomberg |
| 0:45.7 | Green. And your most recent newsletter caught my eye. It's all about China's energy exports. |
| 0:51.8 | China is the leading exporter of clean tech as something we've discussed |
| 0:55.0 | a lot of times on zero and the US is one of the largest exporters of fossil fuels globally. |
| 1:00.0 | But you're the first person that I've seen doing a comparison of the actual numbers of these |
| 1:05.0 | two countries exports. That was the subject of your newsletter. What did you find? |
| 1:09.0 | Yes. So this is a weekly podcast. The newsletter is daily |
| 1:12.9 | and has a lot more ideas. So I hope people will subscribe. Look, we cover climate tech on this podcast |
| 1:19.7 | fairly regularly. And we know that China is the biggest producer of climate tech. But what I hadn't |
| 1:26.9 | seen was a comparison between these |
| 1:28.9 | two numbers because we also know that the US and this Donald Trump administration is trying |
| 1:35.4 | to boost its fossil fuel exports. Joe Biden, not just that though, because Joe Biden was also |
| 1:41.5 | helping increase oil and gas exports. So we know that there was an upward trend in U.S. oil and gas exports. |
| 1:48.3 | But do they compare? |
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