US fighting Russia 'to the last Ukrainian': veteran US diplomat
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Pushback with Aaron Maté
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🗓️ 22 March 2022
⏱️ 53 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to Pushback. I'm Aaron Mate. Joining me is Chas Freeman. He is a retired veteran U.S. diplomat |
| 0:10.2 | who served in a number of senior positions, including as the Assistant Secretary of Defense |
| 0:15.6 | and U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia. Chas Freeman, thank you for joining me. |
| 0:20.8 | Pleasure to be with you. |
| 0:22.6 | What is your assessment of the Russian invasion so far and how the Biden administration |
| 0:28.3 | has responded to it? |
| 0:31.0 | A huge question. |
| 0:34.2 | I thought in the run-up this that Mr. Putin was following a classic form of coercive diplomacy, |
| 0:46.4 | massing troops on Ukraine's border, issuing very clear offers to negotiate, |
| 1:01.0 | threatening indirectly to escalate beyond the border, not in Ukraine, which the Russians repeatedly said they did not intend to invade, but perhaps |
| 1:09.0 | through putting pressure on the United States similar to the one the pressure that |
| 1:15.1 | the Russians feel from us namely missiles within no warning distance at all of the capital |
| 1:22.3 | of course Washington doesn't have quite the significance in our case that Moscow does for the Russians. |
| 1:30.3 | But still, I thought that was what was in store. |
| 1:36.3 | I was stunned when Putin actually invaded Ukraine. |
| 1:41.3 | I don't think its troops were prepared for it. There's no evidence that they had the |
| 1:47.2 | logistics in place or that the troops were briefed about where they were going and why. And so it |
| 1:55.8 | looks like an impetuous decision. And if so, it ranks with the decision of Tsar Nicholas the second, the last |
| 2:05.6 | Tsar, to go to war with Japan in 1904. That had disastrous consequences for political order |
| 2:15.6 | in Russia and I think this is a comparable blunder. |
| 2:21.3 | There are lots of things being said about the course of the war, which is now about a month old. |
| 2:30.3 | And many of them are, I think, frankly, tendentious nonsense. |
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