US Citizenship on the Chopping Block | NLP Replay
Native Land Pod
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🗓️ 5 April 2026
⏱️ 18 minutes
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Summary
The Supreme Court heard arguments from the Trump administration this week to end birthright citizenship, the automatic granting of US citizenship to anyone born in the USA. Their argument centers around the 14th amendment, which was originally created to guarantee citizenship for formally enslaved African Americans.
Join hosts Angela Rye, Andrew Gillum, and Bakari Sellers along with guest-host Brittany Packnett Cunningham for this segment from episode #125 that aired on 04-02-26.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an IHeart podcast. |
| 0:02.6 | Guaranteed Human. |
| 0:04.4 | Native Lamb Pod is a production of IHeart Radio and partnership with Reason Choice Media. |
| 0:09.4 | Nobody knows. |
| 0:12.5 | Let's turn our attention to the Supreme Court case. |
| 0:16.6 | Clarence Thomas, let's start with him. |
| 0:19.2 | You know, every now and then, not every now and in. Anyway, today, Clarence Thomas asks a good question about Drescott. And that's not the question we have, but I do want to roll the first Clarence Thomas question we have. I just want to acknowledge Donald Trump has been in the room for our arguments. We're saying today, but it's going to air tomorrow, obviously, |
| 0:38.9 | but this is still fresh. So we don't have it all together. I do want to roll this Clarence Thomas question. |
| 0:43.8 | General, you're getting a lot of questions about immigration, and they hark it back, of course, |
| 0:49.7 | to citizenship, which is defined in or set out in the 14th Amendment. How much of the debates around |
| 0:59.2 | the 14th Amendment had anything to do with immigration? I think that the principal focus of those |
| 1:08.3 | debates has to do really not with immigrants but with the Indian |
| 1:12.5 | tribes. I mean, obviously the main goal, the one pervading purpose of this court said in the |
| 1:16.0 | slaughterhouse cases was to establish the citizenship of the freed slaves and their children, |
| 1:20.3 | but they were very concerned about the problem of something that they all accepted as a given, |
| 1:27.4 | which is that the children of tribal Indians are not within the rule of something that they all accepted as a given, which is that the children of |
| 1:28.2 | tribal Indians are not within the rule of birthright citizenship. So I think that's what they |
| 1:33.5 | focus. And we draw an analogy to that to the issue of temporary sojourners. And then, but there are |
| 1:38.5 | mentions of temporary sojourning multiple places in the congressional debates and all of those |
| 1:43.1 | quotes go in our direction. |
| 1:49.0 | So that's the first one. I don't know if y'all want to get into another part of the orals here, |
| 1:57.1 | but what is, I think, really fascinating. The lead attorney on our side of the issue is a child of immigrants arguing birthright citizenship. And you see the blatant hypocrisy, not only of the |
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