US-China De-escalation? (& the latest on covid's origin) -- with Josh Rogin

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🗓️ 27 March 2023

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Is the US Government trying to re-engage and bring down the temperature with China? Why right now? And what about the resurgent findings on the possible lab leaked accident (on the origin of the pandemic)? Where does this fit into the de-escalation dynamic? Josh Rogin is a long-time foreign affairs journalist, currently a columnist for The Washington Post. He’s also a Political Analyst for CNN. He’s the author of the bestselling book: “Chaos Under Heaven: Trump, Xi, and the Battle for the Twenty-First Century” Josh's columns discussed in this episode: "The State Department is wrong to play down China’s bad actions"- https://tinyurl.com/3dxtm9a3 "The investigation into covid’s origins must continue" - https://tinyurl.com/3j3ubz4v Ukrainians are begging for cluster munitions to stop the Russians - https://tinyurl.com/yr9vhe7k

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0:00.0	and in any disaster, a plane crash or nuclear meltdown,
0:03.5	the obvious thing to do is to figure out what happened.
0:05.2	So otherwise, how can you make politics and policy
0:07.8	changes to ensure that you have the best chance of preventing
0:10.1	from that seems pretty clear to me.
0:11.6	So I'm not advocating for the lab leak. What I'm saying is that for three years
0:16.0	There were a lot of important people who were intentionally steering people away from the lab leak hypothesis for corrupt and hidden
0:24.8	reasons. Some of them were more egregious than others and a lot of them were the
0:28.0	scientists who were the best friends of the lab and they misled the World Health
0:31.8	Organization they misled a lot of journalists. They misled Congress. They misled the intelligence community and they continue to do that to this day.
0:43.0	Is the U.S.
0:45.0	is the U.S.
0:52.0	is the U.S. government trying to re-engage China trying to bring the temperature down?
0:57.0	Why right now?
0:59.0	And what about the resurgent findings on the possibility of a lab- leaked accident as the origin of the
1:05.7	pandemic. How does this fit into the current dynamic in US-China relations?
1:10.5	Josh Roggan is a longtime foreign affairs analyst, currently a
1:14.2	columnist for the Washington Post. He's also a political analyst for CNN and
1:18.9	he's the author of the best-selling book, Chaos Under Heaven, Trump, Xi, and the Battle for the 21st Century.
1:27.0	When Josh's book first came out back in 2021, we had him on this podcast, and whenever topics related to China and US-China
1:34.8	relations emerge I'm always quick to read Josh and check in with him so I'm glad he
1:39.9	was able to join us today. Josh has also recently written a provocative column for the Washington Post on what the
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